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Help with the dummy library? List of missing GUID

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Hi, I was wondering if you needed help with the constitution of the "dummy library". We could have a thread listing them.

Just loaded kors orcas with the flag on

(MissingLibraryAlert=1 in [sCENERY]) and got 2 missing objects warning. (I realise those may be fsx, acceleration or orbx missing objects).

I suspect that if a fair amount of ORBX affiliados were noting down and posting the GUID of the missing object in a single thread, the list would be filled quiet quickly.

Just out of curiosity, what would be the best "dummy object" ?

One probably want for maximum efficiency:

- no texture to load, so default color, black is probably the most discreet

- no effet like transparency, bump, glare etc

- the smallest amount of polygon? 1 ?

- super small?

so maybe a 5cm x 5cm x5cm black triangle? would look like a stone.

or would a single vertex be enuf?

Etienne

PS: I know you closed the other thread ans maybe u dont want that subject to get too much attention, which for marketing reasons I really can understand, but this could really help imho.

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Hi Etienne,

I am working on this quietly in the background

Yes by all means post missing any GUIDs, but the topic *must* remain focused on the collection of GUIDs only or it will go the way of the others

Cheers

Tim

(The jury is still out as to whether this will help anything, but I'm willing to try)

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Yes, that was the main one I found approaching Seattle, a yellow weathered X

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Good huntin' Gents. Please report also missing texture calls.

Tim, how do you prefer to list the findings - separate topic ?

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First blood :

D777E320-E488-4B0F-BA8B-BEC7CB181B03

0790131E-7849-40EE-F551-C2A741D4AD36

15907EEC-1346-D9A6-4DA6-B8AC0154B2AF

8BEF29AF-AD4E-811B-1097-D6B2356C0435

B631B794-9844-6733-CC57-789AE852964B

B9007196-D040-1CAB-1D26-C989B5BE680C

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I got the following alert while I was flying at dusk at Darrington quite a long time ago (even before the 1S2.110 patch):

Texture not found WESTSIM_MASTER_GENERIC_1_lm.BMP
I was using the following line in fsx.cfg:

ShowMissingTextureAlert=1
But, once again, it was a long time ago, so I'm not sure if it's still missing...
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I found that the WESTSIM_MASTER_GENERIC_1_lm.BMP missing texture was fixed with sp4

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Orcas (KORS)

3B83FE11-2387-4C4D-855C-CB2DECA5B168

250545B2-39B1-4B37-A4FA-75073AD0FC28

Darrington (1S2)

0790131E-7849-40EE-F551-C2A741D4AD36

15907EEC-1346-D9A6-4DA6-B8AC0154B2AF

8BEF29AF-AD4E-811B-1097-D6B2356C0435

B631B794-9844-6733-CC57-789AE852964B

B9007196-D040-1CAB-1D26-C989B5BE680C

walter stutton (WA79)

none

Vashon Island (2S1)

DAB9276E-46E5-F44C-074C-25A800C9B023

B203C663-2EA2-4B2F-8463-F08B7D97E654

000BEB16-4B8C-8BDC-AFA4-E78611ED5CF2

87B239A2-4ABB-4A5B-8246-F35C3A839258

Diamond Point (2WA1)

0132F797-026D-4AE4-B927-4E26D5D19523

D7D63478-9E42-4E64-9EB6-D7EB524D3352

Concrete (3W5)

D777E320-E488-4B0F-BA8B-BEC7CB181B03

Stark's Twin Oaks (7S3)

D65C195F-438E-4D33-8DA8-CA6864CA51E8

34B2CBD5-E92F-4C22-BA89-48A2C67A78F2

171EE56B-16EA-4267-810F-7E6C3B2CB859

BAE38DA2-1011-49DF-8F71-AB2FDEDA917A

0DA27DEF-7A20-42D7-AB18-8DA33BB8BD40

5FD1057B-3375-4ADB-B50B-D1B8E7D73B9C

92B0489C-11CC-4D52-99FD-559025C82486

AFED624E-3091-4290-82B4-BAA223B0F2E7

Cushman Meadows (KCMW)

none

Israel Farm (WA56)

D777E320-E488-4B0F-BA8B-BEC7CB181B03

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tried portland, yellowstone, no problems of missing GUID, so this is only on the detailled airports, which isnt surprising as it is where we are getting CTD on approach. X finger the dummy library may do the trick. Etienne

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Some texture and other airports

KORS

ORBX_3W5_CHURCHES.DDS

ORBX_3W5_RW_5TH_W.DDS

DS_TIRE.DDS

WOODPOLE.DDS

1S2

none (texture)

WA79

none (texture)

2S1

none (texture)

2WA1

none (texture)

3W5

none (texture)

7S3

none (texture)

KCMW

none (texture)

WA56

WOODPOLE.DDS

WA7M

none (GUID)

none (texture)

WA45

0132F797-026D-4AE4-B927-4E26D5D19523

D7D63478-9E42-4E64-9EB6-D7EB524D3352

none (texture)

WA38

none (GUID)

none (texture)

WA40

none (GUID)

none (texture)

W49

3B83FE11-2387-4C4D-855C-CB2DECQ5B168

WOODPOLE.DDS

WA35

250545B2-39B1-4B37-A4FA-75073AD0FC28

DS_TIRE.DDS

1OR4

D65C195F-438E-4D33-8DA8-CA6864CA51E8

34B2CBD5-E92F-4C22-BA89-48A2C67A78F2

171EE56B-16EA-4267-810F-7E6C3B2CB859

BAE38DA2-1011-49DF-8F71-AB2FDEDA917A

0DA27DEF-7A20-42D7-AB18-8DA33BB8BD40

5FD1057B-3775-4ADB-B50B-D1B8E7D73B9C

92B0489C-11CC-4D52-99FD-559025C82486

AFED624E-3091-4290-82B4-BAA223B0F2E7

none (texture)

21W

none (GUID)

JSS_RUSTYGALV.BMP

at KORS, it fails to load a texture "DDS" with no name? now this is scary

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Hi All,

Wouldn't it be beneficial if before posting any missing GUID's that the poster indicated what level of updates/service packs (ORBX) were applicable to their setup.

Kind Regards

Bernie.

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Good point Bernie. In my case (long list above) I have all the latest release of everything.

(FSX + Acceleration)

Etienne

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Hi,

Yes sorry I should have mentioned this, we cant do this for everything, so I can only accept missing GUIDs from ORBX products, as we cannot interfere with OZx or other company's scenery!

The only safe way to know this is if all you have installed is ORBX products on a clean FSX install, of which myself and Heiko both have

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Hello again,

Fair enough.

The list of "missing objects" being non overlapping, this shouldn't be an issue.

Just ignore 1OR4 and Ranger's Creek in my previous list.

Good luck,

Etienne

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Thanks for your help Etienne :) . We are working on it.

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If you need any testers i don't mind helping :)

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For reference (I know you arent going to support them, but somehow most folks use OZx addons with Orbx sceneries.

0U0, ID17, 3U2, 0U2

3U2

461B000C-79A5-44D6-86FC-AFB8CF061AC3

05B58215-B454-44F0-9BA5-8260EC572484

DF8625C9-CED5-4FA2-A45C-70B947693DB8

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Any OZx fixes will need to be done through OZx, so best not to confuse the thread with OZx GUIDs..

The first step is to remove the error flags with FTX and associated ORBX airports and see whether this has any impact on CTD occurence.

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Hi all...

Just had a few "missing" textures on a flight from Orcas (not the payware version, but the FTX default) to Concrete at dusk...

WESTSIM_MASTER_GENERIC_1_LM.BMP

MC_LM.DDS

ORBX_3W5_HALS_POST_LM.DDS

I also had a few GUID alerts, but they appear to have been notified already...

I then took off from Concrete headed to Darrington and a few miles out I had a bunch (4) missing GUIDs - I did not record them followed by a terrain.dll CTD 10 seconds later...

Hope this helps!

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Thanks, guys ! Rob, can you remember where you got the MC_LM.DDS alert ? Do you have OzX enabled ?

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Thanks, guys ! Rob, can you remember where you got the MC_LM.DDS alert ? Do you have OzX enabled ?

I don't have the OZx enabled... in fact I seem to have lost my backup and can't seem to find it anywhere online anymore to download.

The MC_LM.DDS happened a few times, but it seemed to happen exclusively while flying through the valley (the one with Samish Lake - N48 39 40 W122 23 10) South West of Bellingham en route to Sedrow-Wooley... Once I got into the Skagit River valley it seemed to stop.

Being a dusk flight, I assumed the _LM was a light map?

Edit: This prompted me to go have another look for OZx NA... And there it was, right in front of my nose. Downloading now!

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Just repeated my Concrete to Darrington flight and I have the other GUIDs that I missed yesterday...

One on the ground in Concrete:

D777E320-E488-4B0F-BA8B-BEC7CB181B03

Five a few miles out of Concrete on the way to Darrington:

0790131E-7849-40EE-F551-C2A741D4AD36

15907EEC-1346-D9A6-4DA6-B8AC0154B2AF

8BEF29AF-AD4E-811B-1097-D6B2356C0435

B631B794-9844-6733-CC57-789AE852964B

B9007196-D040-1CAB-1D26-C989B5BE680C

All 6 look like they're already reported...

I also got some more .DDS errors, but I'm starting to wonder if these are related to my Katana... I get the same error in the FSX home screen whenever I select the Katana as an aircraft... And perhaps the MC_LM.DDS is also to do with this...

No CTD this time though... Perhaps giving it time while I wrote down the GUIDs helps?

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Do you get the MC_LM.DDS alert also with other aircraft ?

Thanks for posting the GUIDs - we have covered those and make good progress. 3 native FSX texture alerts are also identified so far.

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Heiko,

This dummy Library you guys are creating, is it beig made to solve the G3d's....has that been the casue of the g3ds?

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Do you get the MC_LM.DDS alert also with other aircraft ?

Thanks for posting the GUIDs - we have covered those and make good progress. 3 native FSX texture alerts are also identified so far.

I'll check that out next I get the chance... I tend to fly the Katana exclusively right now.

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Do you get the MC_LM.DDS alert also with other aircraft ?

Thanks for posting the GUIDs - we have covered those and make good progress. 3 native FSX texture alerts are also identified so far.

Ok... Just repeated the flight I originally did (Orcas to Concrete) but this time in the Carenado 182RG. I got the same GUID reports and also the same textures (WESTSIM_MASTER_GENERIC_1_LM.BMP, MC_LM.DDS, ORBX_3W5_HALS_POST_LM.DDS)

Safe to say that the MC_LM.DDS is not a Katana related texture... I do still have some "missing" Katana textures, but I'll take that up with Aerosoft.

Hope this helps!

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Heiko,

This dummy Library you guys are creating, is it beig made to solve the G3d's....has that been the casue of the g3ds?

Well, that's what we try to achieve. We will see how it will work in the end.

Rob, do you get this MC_LM.DDS alert right at Orcas or somewhere nearby ? I can't reproduce that one yet...

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Well, that's what we try to achieve. We will see how it will work in the end.

Rob, do you get this MC_LM.DDS alert right at Orcas or somewhere nearby ? I can't reproduce that one yet...

The place it always seems to hit me is in the valleys East of Orcas... Once you get to the mainland:

Posted Image

The green and orange lines are my typical flying routes...

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Thanks Rob, looks like another native FSX texture missing... I'll check it out.

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Sorry, we can't see the MC_LM.DDS alert. Do you have Acceleration installed ? OzX disabled ?

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I do have SP2 installed... Didn't ever bother with the full Acceleration pack though. I was originally getting this missing texture before I installed OZx NA... And it's the same after I installed it, so I think it's safe to say it isn't an OZx thing...

Very curious...

Edit:

Just did a generic google search and noticed this:

http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=12051&st=0&p=8260285entry8260285

Looks like it's obviously not a common issue, but it's out there... Perhaps just not noticed as not many of us have these "debug" edits applied...

I don't have DX10 preview selected...

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Got some more... I repeated the flight a few times to make sure it wasn't a one-off deal.

This time at Bowerman KHQM (With the totally awesome freeware installed)

82F633A2-2A4A-413D-A8AF-BEB9E952D29D

C865A634-3F2D-4727-BC79-5501C14BF393

EE549865-B361-45DE-8661-EDF0DA7573B4

1B7DE0E3-79E0-4918-8FA6-0194D3A361E7

7604536B-760B-4600-8531-05FE61174E68

277B5D3A-F06D-49A9-A3DC-04EFD9050448

A1778E3C-9502-4F30-AB71-0E7E29AE92F0

49BCAFB2-4922-4B49-B190-34A37DE14CDB

78FCCA87-43CC-4CC0-8737-F814FEC5AF55

CEB22558-3248-4B57-9937-6867CE657E20

3E530C0E-022A-4A0C-BB00-301A946CCBB1

A05B40EF-2493-4DD3-9E4E-30AC353A9EEB

C43B8BF8-E224-41E6-8901-F585A7ED272C

DDC85494-3564-4D25-B1C7-9D1F2FDC2562

D3800EAF-BCCE-4EF0-B420-B13D159DB1E9

00BDFE47-39AE-4AB8-9C7B-304F4EA35C06

I'll post any more I find on my travels...

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And some more... This time on a trip from KHQM, south along the coast to the Columbia then tracking the Columbia inland to just north of the Tri-Cities...

This one was reported along the whole route:

931535B2-BBD9-409F-99C0-39634D4405F3

This one happened at N46 8.50 W123 15.00

45C2989B-2BF9-45C7-8D02-AC345B372136

This one started at N45 42.09 W121 26.41 and happened occasionally till the end of the flight (Including over The Dalles and the hyro plant)

49BCAFB2-4922-4B49-B190-34A37DE14CDB

This one started at N45 55.06 W119 32.84 and happened occasionally till the end of the flight

45ADEEBF-9B6E-45E4-A3F6-F0B5B32FFE62

These two started at N45 55.50 W119 26.55 and happened occasionally till the end of the flight

82F633A2-2A4A-413D-A8AF-BEB9E952D29D

C865A634-3F2D-4727-BC79-5501C14BF393

This one happened at N46 8.50 W123 15.00

5E7481D4-BBB0-4D66-A82D-E50D279958A8

From this point on, the reports just kept repeating the same GUIDs as mentioned above, so I stopped recording them.

Hope this helps!

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Thanks for the input guys!

The upcoming Orbxlibs update (for 1WA6 Fall City) will include hundreds of dummies to hopefully remove all those error messages.

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Thanks for your excellent report, Rob.

I get around a lot on my hunt for missing objects and textures - but the last ones you have posted are new to me. Just to confirm, do you have OzX enabled or disabled ? Do you have other addons installed which cover the PNW area ?

I'll visit of course those coordinates and check it out, thanks for that :) .

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I do now have Ozx installed and active... but no other addons in the Orbx PNW or CRM regions (both of which were part of my flight). I do have UTX and GEX, but they are currently disabled.

Just happy to do my part... doesn't take any effort to write down a few letters and numbers while I fly, and it might just help!

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I put the additional line in my FSX.cfg to see if anything showed on my travels. Noything has to date but that may be due to the fact I have spent most of my time in recent days rattling around Tasmania and didn't have it loaded whilst trying Bowerman.

However, I did notice this evening that some terrain patches west of Burnie (Wynyard) Airport look like someone accidentally spilled a 44 gallon drum of defoliant on the ground and there is no evidence of land class displayed. Could someone take a look. I live here and it is definately not right but it could be my installation. Just want to rule one or the other out.

Thanks

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